On 4/22/11, yahvuu wrote:

>> CMS is not a solution to that, nor DVCS is (especially _D_VCS).
>> This is a social issue, CMS is of no help there.
>
> The only way to prove your hypothesis is to experimentally demonstrate that
> a CMS does not improve the situation...

You know, I had a rather long reply to each of your points, but this
last bit made me erase most of it, because your stubborness is trying
to rival mine, and I'm _not_ having any of that :)

The fact that the team is in need for help is not a mistery. It was
never hushed up by government or men in black backed up by helicopters
of likewise colour. It wasn't communicated to the user base well
enough, but even now when it _is_ communicated to user base, very,
very few people care to make a difference.

Over past four months ever since the "Why GIMP 2.8 is delayed" thing
began only a handful of developers cared to cook up a few patches and
none of them sticked to the project in the end (I'm personally
thankful to them even for that). Despite of the community knowing abou
all the issues I know just one person who keeps contibuting here and
there, but he's been around for years. Apart from that what we mostly
got was a temporary raise of donations, which we still haven't found a
use for to make 2.8 happen sooner.

Please learn facts before you start talking about hypotheses.

There are still things to be done to improve the situation, but _once
again_ they are mostly social and less technical. I'll just list a
few:

- we are not making it easy to get into development (partially solved
thanks to Alexia and Barak)
- we are not promoting new core features
- we are not promoting 3rd party development
- we are not promoting educational materials, courses, workshops and suchlike

All of the things above make a huge difference when you are trying to
create a rewarding community. In short, we are not even attempting to
build an ecosystem to make the project support itself. This plays a
huge role in the fact that the team is always outnumbered.

There is no silver bullet, there is only patience, passion and
dedication. If people don't have it, no CMS will substitute that. You
want to argue against that? Fine with me, but I'm not participating.
I'd like to have something done instead, thank you very much.

Now that I've done my shouting, may I once again try to get the
discussion back to the topic of new design? I quite like Jason's take
at GRAMPS website's design (I remember all its previous versions), but
I'm interested in what else people can come up with, and that sounds
like contest to me.

Could we please have a voting of some kind whether we do a contest or not?

Alexandre Prokoudine
http://libregraphicsworld.org
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