I think Nvu took a great but neglected product (composer!) and tried
to make a new firefox product out of it.

I think the project needs a restart - and the project needs to be
housed inside mozilla.org I guess - this will bring more interest from
existing FF/TB/SB developers.

Right now, we have a great base, which needs changes!

I picked it up a bit again, and found it borked on trying to create
new css files, kept refreshing, and doesn't render as gecko does in
preview mode.

It messes with code (shock!) yet doesn't have a format command.

If composer isn't the best place to work within, maybe the eclipse
platform + gecko integration would be a nice starting point, the file
systems built in would help a lot.

This is not 1.0 code!

(Then all we need to do is fix gimp and I am happy ;-))



On 12/14/05, Allexey Gubanov aka Ragnaar <ragnaar@mozi...> wrote:
> Hello
>
> I'm russian translator Nvu from Mozilla.ru Team.
> Many people ask me by mail and at our forum when there will be new
> version Nvu? I do not know, what answer them...
> I send Daniel about it, but my message has been ignored... I think Nvu
> is dead.
> Our team is ready to be switched to support and translation any Nvu fork
> if will be created. And switch our users use this new project.
> > Dear All,
> >
> > I'm inclined to agree with Gudmund, I joined the list to see if I could
> > help, get into some open source development and address some issues with
> > publishing with nvu, which prevented its' use by me (and reading the forums
> > others).
> >
> > I saw the forums swamped with web developers not code developers and hoped
> > the list would get me to the real people and things like code maps; project
> > areas etc. so I could learn the code in a manageable form.
> >
> > In all honesty I don't know if I have the energy to work on this project
> > now, but a code map is the invitation to the community to get stuck in
> > without burning the work of others doing the same.
> >
> > Anyway if someone could start work on a code map, it might re-kindle the
> > enthusiasm for the project I had and the attempts to see where (I thought)
> > things were going wrong with publishing.
> >
> > Steve
> > UK
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: m@de-m... [mailto:m@de-m...]
> > Sent: 14 December 2005 08:05
> > Cc: devel@list...
> > Subject: Re: Code map/where to find things
> >
> >
> >
> > Dear Gudmund,
> >
> > I went through the same process of asking about the development
> > infrastructure and getting nil response.  That was many months ago.  The
> > total traffic on the nvu-devel list in that time has been about ten
> > e-mails, mostly caused by a mini-furore about a month ago when I told
> > someone new to nvu that the list was dead, and then I got flamed.
> > Possibly nvu is well loved by a few people but just doesn't have a
> > developer base.
> >
> > I also contacted the company that sponsors nvu and received no response.
> >
> > If you're interested in working on nvu I'm still sufficiently game to
> > start drawing up a code map.  For my own use I've switched to using
> > Mozilla composer but I imagine that the code base differs in sufficiently
> > few places that a code map for mozilla - if there is one - would largely
> > also apply to nvu and conversely changes to nvu could be submitted to
> > mozilla.
> >
> >
> > Conjecture:  Open source isn't really open source unless the code is both
> > freely available but also easy to change for one's own personal end.
> >
> > Best Wishes, Max
> > ----------------
> >
> >
>
> --
> Regards,
> ==>Alexey S. Gubanov aka Ragnaar
> ==>Mozilla.ru Team
> ==>E-mail: ragnaar@mozi...
> ==>Web-page: http://nvu.mozilla.ru
>
>