Hi,

sorry for saying that, but I believe that Hivemind *is* dead.

Not because there are no more users or no interest, but because no one who is responsible for that project does care anymore.

Every now and then there is a discussion that something should get done, everytime there is some little discussion, and sometimes there is even work done (for example the task list from Johan Lindquist) but then ..... nothing happens anymore.

It is correct that you can't give committer rights to unknown people, but right now there is absolutely no chance to participate in the project.
I know, we can fix bugs in the JIRA ... but there are bug fixes in the JIRA done, mostly by Johan, that's true, but nevertheless: nothing happens to that bug fixes. And everyone who is interested and is following the ongoings on this list notice that ... and that is not much motivation to participate in any way.

If the actual committers do not have any time left (and that's perfectly understood, the most of us must go to work and do such things in their spare time)  then at least ask if someone volunteers and give committers rights to him/her (to make it clear: I'm not talking about me).
Perhaps that does not work out either but you could try.

No offence meant, perhaps I'm the one who is wrong and there is really not much interest in a - even minor - release, then I apologize and give up :-)

Merry christmas to all of you, have nice holidays :-)

Cheers,
Jochen


-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Johan Lindquist [mailto:johan@kawo...]
Gesendet: Samstag, 13. Dezember 2008 16:44
An: dev@hive...
Betreff: Re: HiveMind 1.2

Hi,

Updating/testing Hivemind with newer/latest versions of 3rd party
libraries is definately a good idea.  And I guess not just Javassist but
also Spring, Groovy etc should probably be tested as part of this.

This, together with some of the bug fixes already lined up & updating
the website with to be in Maven format would, in my opinion, make a good
candidate for a 1.2 release - I don't think it has be to more than that.

If nothing else, to simply get the momentum up (and provide some relief
to those who think the project is not active and therefore look
elsewhere for solutions). :)

Then the rest of the features in JIRA could constitute the 1.3
candidate, and perhaps moving all the docs to the WIKI - cause a common
complaint is as we all know the docs - the WIKI would help alleviate
this somewhat.

What say you out there? :)

Cheers,

Johan

Jochen Zimmermann wrote:
> Hi!
>
> I'm not missing any functionality, it just feels a bit uncomfortable
> that there is no active development.
>
> As I wrote more than once now, in my team I am not in a position to make
> decisions all alone, so I had some controversy about using Hivemind or
> not. People ask questions like: "what if Hivemind makes trouble (for
> example because of a newer Java Version), do we have enough knowledge
> about Hivemind and (perhaps more important) enough time to handle this
> alone?"
>
> We use it and are happy with its functionality, but it is a weak point
> and we have a point "check the Spring Framework doing the job of
> Hivemind" on our TO-DO list (fortunately in the part that is labeled
> with "if we have time" ;-)
>
> So what about maintenance? Update Hivemind and test it to work with the
> newest versions of for example c?
> This could be on a roadmap.
>
> Regards,
> Jochen
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Johan Lindquist" <johan@kawo...>
> To: <dev@hive...>
> Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 8:31 PM
> Subject: Re: HiveMind 1.2
>
>
> Hi Raffael,
>
> Don't think there is (ever was?) a roadmap  for beyond 1.1 - the JIRA
> cleanup was done in order to sort out what bugs/features could in
> theory be looked over and applied.   But  that doesn't constitute a
> roadmap for sure. :)
>
> I get the impression that many of the existing users are overall happy
> with what Hivemind currently does and don't really expect it to do
> more (myself included to an extent).  Saying that though, there are
> some bug fixes which would be great to resolve, as well as a couple of
> new, nice features.  These could well constitute what gets done for
> 1.2 in my opinion
>
> But beyond that, there is not much pending - would be great to hear
> what everyone else has to say on this.  Anything missing from
> Hivemind?  Anything that really bugs someone? :)
>
> Cheers,
>
> Johan
>
> Raffael Herzog wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Is there any roadmap for HiveMind 1.2? What was planned? What has been
> done
>>>> already? I mean, besides cleaning up Jira ... ;)
>>>>
>>>> If there isn't anything like that it would be nice, if someone who
>>>> knows/remembers those things could write a wiki page on that.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>    Raffi
>>>>
>
>>

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you too?