--> Commander-List message posted by: "Robert Steele" <bob.steele@kzf....>

Nico,

I just saw this e-mail, sorry for the slow response.

At the annual Fly-Ins the guys/gals who get there early - mainly Captain Jim
Bob and basically everyone else who is there before you arrive - judge your
taxing.  Whoever does the ugliest job of it, which apparently I did in 2005
at Marina, CA, wins the dang thing.

>From what I can tell - it's all political, there is nepotism involved,
price-fixing, bribery, and all other kinds of orneriness.  The only good
thing for 2006 - my hanger is next to Commander-Aero and the only way I can
win it back to back is if they include "planes being parked by a tug!"

Just to be safe, I think I'll just have it parked outside Commaner Aeros's
hanger the day before JB gets there.

Bob Steele





-----Original Message-----
From: owner-commander-list-server@matr...
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matr...]On Behalf Of css nico
Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 4:19 PM
To: commander-list@matr...
Subject: Re: Commander-List: flaps and flexibility


--> Commander-List message posted by: "css nico" <nico@cybe...>

Great history, Bob.
What's the golden rudder award, Bob?
Pardon my ignorance.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Steele" <bob.steele@kzf....>
To: <commander-list@matr...>
Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 11:42 AM
Subject: RE: Commander-List: flaps and flexibility


> --> Commander-List message posted by: "Robert Steele" <bob.steele@kzf....>
>
> I will second WCG's suggestion on Bill.  And I speak from experience.
>
> I bought my Commander without having my ME rating.  Dick Wartinger did the
> pre-buy for me and then hooked me up with Bill.  At the time Bill was an
> MD-80 instructor at TWA (now American).  Due to insurance requirements I
had
> to spend 25 hours with him and I can tell you he did everything in the
world
> to me - including pulling engines on take off roll - before and just after
> take off (and on hot days).  Bill is definitely old school as well as new
> school.  I think I was his first piston student in 20 years - so he
insisted
> on the best of the good-old-days as well as the new stuff of today.
>
> One of the best things he had me do was may make an actual single engine
> landing - not simulated - but feathered left engine out - and because of
his
> training it was a snap - and it was as if he had ESP.  To make a long
story
> short - on my ME check ride (with a for-real FAA employee as the examiner)
I
> actually had to make a single engine landing.  It was a very hot summer
day
> in August and we were 10 miles from the airport with the right engine out
> (long story there).   Due to Bill's training I was not a bit nervous and
the
> landing at Lunken was a breeze - even taxied all the way back to the FBO
and
> parked her in an out of the way spot!  (I got a discontinuance because the
> FAA man wanted two to see two more take offs and landings - which he got
out
> of me two weeks later.)
>
> Thanks to Dick Wartinger I now a have a great instructor and a friend.
>
> Bob Steele
> Prestigious Holder of the 2005 Golden Rudder Award
> Can't wait to give it to someone else in Dayton this summer
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-commander-list-server@matr...
> [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matr...]On Behalf Of
> cloudcraft@aol....
> Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 9:33 AM
> To: commander-list@matr...
> Subject: Re: Commander-List: flaps and flexibility
>
>
> --> Commander-List message posted by: cloudcraft@aol....
>
> Outstanding advice from Bill Leff.
>
>   Since Mr. Leff brought up the icy runway idea ... the ONLY time I'd
> use less than full flaps when landing a Twin Commander was if I was
> carrying airframe ice on the approach. Full flaps could aggravate a
> tail plane stall.
>
>   I wonder if anyone else caught the very sublte but very important
> hint: Bill Leff is offering Commander Training. If I was looking for
> Commander training, I'd go to him (and I used to make my living doing
> Commander training!).
>
>   I've landed in snarling, ripping, Santa Anas tumbleweed blowing,
> sand-blasting, 90 degree cross winds in a Commander. Full flaps.
> Differential power does the trick, coupled with that nice high wing
> that allows all the side slip bank angle you could ever want.
>
>  Wing Commander Gordon
>
>   Imperial Meat Pie? Bill Hamilton, I may print and frame your Oz
> Aviation History post!
>
>
>
>  -----Original Message-----
>  From: BillLeff1@aol....
>  To: commander-list@matr...
>  Sent: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 22:12:09 EST
>  Subject: Re: Commander-List: flaps and flexibility
>
>  --> Commander-List message posted by: BillLeff1@aol....
>
>   I recommend full flaps on all landings except maybe very icy runways.
> Use
>   differential power when exceeding more than 1/2 rudder travel. When on
> the
>   ground the aircraft has a negative angle of attack and sticks quite
> well.
>   Raising the flaps after touchdown helps some but they retract so slow
> you will
>  be
>  stopped before they are completely up.
>
>  Bill Leff
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

















_-============================================================
_-=          - The Commander-List Email Forum -
_-= Use the Matronics List Features Navigator to browse
_-= the many List utilities such as the Subscriptions page,
_-= Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ,
_-= Photoshare, and much much more:
_-=                                              
_-= --> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List
_-============================================================
_-=             - List Contribution Web Site -
_-=   Thank you for your generous support!
_-=                              -Matt Dralle, List Admin.
_-= --> http://www.matronics.com/contribution
_-============================================================